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.308 should be perfectly adequate for black bear. 180 Noslers will be fine. I don't like the 180s so much in the .308 because of the low achievable velocities vs. the .30-06, but at woods ranges there should be no problem. Calculate the trajectory and zero at 150 or 200 yards. Take your time and put the bullet in the right place.
Here in B.C. (mostly on Vancouver and Queen Charlotte islands) we have the largest black bear populations in North America and yes the .308 (and 7-08) are very effective. Check this out Jim Shockey - Vancouver Island Black Bear not about calibers but when it comes to black bear hunting we are lucky as hell here.
A few years ago I shot a black bear at 40 yards with 7mm Mag and the bullet retained 68% weight, mushroomed to 3/4 inch and travelled the entire length of the bear from the chin to just under the hide on the bears right rump. The bear didn't move. The bullet was a 160grn Nosler Accu-bond and it hit the bear at just a touch over 2950fps.
Quick question. I will be going to upper mich black bear hunting and was wondering if my weatherby .308 would be enough. I will be using 180 gr nosler ballistic tips, and range should be sub 200yd. I do have a .30-06 rem 7600 but really dislike this gun. not a big centerfire pump fan.
A .308 is big enough to kill an elk or a big black bear. When you hunt, you don't hear the boom... (at least I don't)... I never felt the recoil either. A 150 gr bullet in a 308 gives you about 2 ft-lbs. less recoil that a 30-06. Trajectory, shot placement... blah blah blah... Both will do what you want. The 30-06 will do more, the .308 has a ...
I'd rather have a 45-70 than a .308 for any "surprise" type shots that I would have to take on a mad grizzly bear. As for a back-up side arm, it is a last ditch effort to take on a grizzly bear with a hand gun, no matter WHAT caliber it is.
Most states I hunt in require .24 caliber or larger for big game hunting, except Texas. Texas Parks and Wildlife allows any caliber larger than a .22lr for big game and it seems a .223 is used quite extensively there as a whitetail killer. As I stated, anything that can kill a whitetail, can kill a black bear.
in PA were I live and hunt black bears the smallest gun I take in the woods for bear hunting is a 7600 Remington 308 cal using 165 nosler accubonds. but most of the time I use my 300win mag with 180gr partions or my .50cal inline with 295 gr bullets with 100gr of powder behind it.
180 grain SP would be fine for elk or bear. A handloaded jacketed hollowpoint might be even better. A 147 grain SP will do perfectly well for whitetail, and with good shot placement would certainly have enough power to drop an elk. The Mosin is both powerful enough and accurate enough for North American hunting.
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